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The MMT Podcast with Patricia Pino & Christian Reilly

Jun 8, 2022

Patricia and Christian talk to economic anthropologist and co-founder of the Debt Collective, Professor Hannah Appel about the growing movement for debt abolition and where MMT fits in with it.


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For more on The Debt Collective:


The Debt Collective on Twitter:


NYT Student Debt Editorial, Annotated by the Debt Collective:


The Debt Collective - “Cancel Student Debt: The Best Answers To The Toughest Questions”:



Hannah Appel - “Debtors Of The World Unite”:


Attend online events from the Levy Economics Institute summer seminar, June 11–18, 2022 (NB session times are in eastern time):


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More on monetary operations:

Episode 20 - Warren Mosler: The MMT Money Story (part 1):


Episode 126 - Dirk Ehnts: How Banks Create Money:


Episode 13 - Steven Hail: Everything You Always Wanted To Know About Banking, But Were Afraid To Ask:


Episode 43 - Sam Levey: Understanding Endogenous Money:

“An Accounting Model of the UK Exchequer – 2nd edition” by Andrew Berkeley, Richard Tye & Neil Wilson:

Our episodes about “An Accounting Model of the UK Exchequer”:

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More on inflation:

Episode 65 - Phil Armstrong: Understanding Inflation:

Episode 104 - John T Harvey: Inflation, Stagflation & Healing The Nation:

Episode 123 - Warren Mosler: Understanding The Price Level And Inflation:

Episode 128 - L. Randall Wray & Yeva Nersisyan: What’s Causing Accelerating Inflation? Pandemic Or Policy Response?:


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